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Announcing "BloxPress": a Ajax Web2.0 Theme (33 posts)

  1. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hi everybody.

    I don't know if you know but i am working on an already pretty mature project called "BloxPress".

    It is based on my first ment-blox drag/drop theme i started with. After a while i decided to discontinue the work on that theme because the project was gone to be a much bigger thing then ever planned.

    BloxPress is an Web 2.0 Theme Framework for WordPress.

    It's fully compatible to any WordPress 1.5.2 vanilla install. Just throw it in and you are set.

    What's Web 2.0?
    in short terms: "This “Web 2.0″ thing puts the content in the hands of the user.", in BloxPress your user has full control of the entire content-layout and is also able to save/reload it and to choose from your layout presets.

    Why it's supposed to be Framework?
    I wrote an own theme engine within the theme environment of WordPress enabling designers to take advantage of the latest technologies. -> On-demand content loading over AJAX.

    But...
    The whole project is too huge to put in this little textbox: Best thing you can do is to visit the dedicated site and read thru the docs.

    This is something completly different and hands a lot of power to Bloggers, Visitors and Designers.

    There will be BETA-Releases in a few, but what i really could need right now is some feedback on various aspects of my concepts. Theres a Project-Chat forum for this purpose and also feel free to comment the latest news.

    Feel free to suggest features in case you are missing something. I will add anything of use!

    Thanks, and i hope you like it.
    -> http://www.bloxpress.org

  2. rafleet
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Sounds good...but, uhmm...links not working?

    Maybe later, k?

  3. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    fixed

  4. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    anyone? :)

  5. roderickvd
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Do you have a demo up somewhere, or possibly more screenshots?

  6. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Demo will be released today or probably tommorow. I was working the whole weekend on it.

    I am close to have it stable. Sorry for the lack of screenshots but i dont want to post too much screens since i am not sure what i will keep from it in the final product demo.

    stay tuned.

  7. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

  8. MikeCherim
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Amazing!

  9. rafleet
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Wow.

    All I think of to say, after viewing the demo, is to quote Mr. W. Smith....

    "I have GOT to get me one of these!!"

    Keep up the development, and keep us updated. VERY impressive work.

    RIch

  10. LaBella
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I like it!
    *thumbs up!*

  11. moloko
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Great job. Looking forward to seeing the working version. The flash demo is cool. Lots of possibilities with the widgets.

  12. jetshack
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Love it!

  13. Chewxy
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    whoa... this is way cool.. cooler than Jalenack's. Anyways, my Google Wannabe 2.0 theme will also be AJAX based. Could learn a trick or 2 from yours :D

  14. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    you could also just use mine to make your theme with, according to: http://www.bloxpress.org/?page_id=27 ;)

  15. gietl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Wow, great demo, we have been using ajax on our production site here at work and I started to think about how I could use it for my blog and another portal based site I run (nuke). This is really great.

  16. nearlythere
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    i just wanted to echo: "wow"

    eye candy! and looks like fun to play with.

  17. AjAx
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Site is not loading!

  18. lleger
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    wow... unbelivably awesome senor...

  19. Arlo
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Not to be a contrarian snot, but isn't this a bit overkill? It's cool and all, but who would use a theme like this day in day out? Who is going to have a site who's content is that variable? It would drive readers crazy seeing elements move and shift so much.

  20. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    The elements don't move automaticly. You set this once and thats it. It is the power of choice given. It only enables people to do so in a very easy and intuitive way.

    Expanding possibilities and user expirience. Thats what this is all about.

  21. Arlo
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    What I mean is, AJAXey stuff is great, but it seems more appropriate for elements that bear regular/ocassional rearrangement. To use it on the main layout of a blog, which should ideally be somewhat static, seems an awkward application for so much overhead of functionality.

  22. TechGnome
    Moderator
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Arlo - I think you don't get it. That's OK. I don't either. Unless you are building an application where user experience is importaint, it's useless and overhyped (in a couple of years we'll be talking about the AJAX bubble bursting). And last I checked it was WEBMaster, not USERMaster. I see alot of this being used (as it was in this theme) to take control away from the web designer and handing it to the user, who may or may not know what to do about it. But the tragedy will come when that user happens to be some big-wig management type (PHB) who thinks "Coooool!" and directs that his company's website employs the same technology (which then subsequently becomes the hottest buzzword despite the fact it means nothing (not so much AJAX which is an acronym, but I'm talking web 2.0 - WTF does that mean? Nothing)). And I dare not think about what this does to the searchability of websites.

    But that's just me, I tend to be under the bandwagon rather than on it.

    -tg

  23. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    @arlo: I see your point and i agree with you. You're not the first and i found a way already. Also about the "you need javascript" aspect. I will make just a fallback solution.

    First time visitors are confronted with the static version. (the simple loop thing from WP). On demand they switch to ajax version and can move stuff around and add more to it.

    If they have no Javascript they will get a "low-fi" version with no effects.

    This way google still likes the site and those who fear jscript are served aswell.. best you can get in my humble opinion.

  24. Kassad
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I could say not that I agree to some of the points brought for here but that I can understand them, at least as having more years behind than before me. And seeing the rises and falls of several "hypes" and seeing all this in historical context. There was always "fight" between the "old" and the "new".

    There is really a "hype" about Web 2.0, though, I care not much about it because it means only that there is something in change, something in birth, we could not really put a finger on it, yet.
    People, always try to name new things and sometimes they give a wrong name that will stick.
    So, I do not bother still I can see what is going on.

    But AJAX is a different beast and I do not think it to be a "hype".
    It is just a technology, not even very original but evolving to a state where it can be put to very good use.

    Now, back to the subject:
    The main point here, as TG said, that it seems to take away the control from the webdesigner and passing it to the user. This is just "seemingly" so, in my opinion.

    1. This is just one theme out of more than two hundreds, at the present.

    2. As Mentor stated, there is a static version or versions. Or presets. One column, two columns, three columns. You have, say, three layout, just in one theme.
    You may use either one of the other two hundreds, use one of the presets according to your taste or simply, you may change your mind and make a rearrange according to your present state of soul :) and degrading is granted, also.

    3. It is still as open as it can be and you can hack it to death. Though, it needs more knowledge.

    4. Every thing in the world, always starts the same way.
    First it is for the few and devoted.
    Next come the people with sharp minds and full with energy and imagination to make the best out of it.
    And they do.
    And in the end will come the majority who do care a damn about just anything, they just want the fucking thing to behave.
    It is not nice and it is just pain for a real hacker but it is the way things go.

    My conclusion is, that this particular theme is full of bridges and let all kind of people with all kind of considerations to choose their own way according to their knowledge, intents or whims.
    Certainly a new approach, a new technology but not taking over the world but serving the "new needs".

  25. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Impressive Write-up. Pretty nice conclusion.

    I also wrote on this "web2.0" topic elsewhere today too.

    It ain't important how people call it. What's important is that people get to work because that term "Web2.0" simply exists.

    See it from a developers mind. He hears about Web2.0 and probably goes like: "hey, whats that? i need to know what this is all about and try it!", which leads to: he's building something he probably never did before, just to find out if he can make it.

    Let it be a "buzzword", but if this encourage creativity and makes people build new stuff it's absolutly fine by me. The whole discussion about the web2.0 released so much energy, it's simply amazing.

    As a user i welcome any free new (so-called "social") webservice/software/tool popping out of nowhere. If you are concerned about Web2.0 being a buzzword, just keep in mind that innovative things been born only because of this "buzz".

    For this project, as example, i didn't started with the (probably already common) thought "Now i gonna build somethinig Web2.0". I just did what i had in mind and after all, while looking around what is actually called "Web2.0" i saw there a relationship to this project.

    Since there is no clear definition of Web2.0 yet, we can only trial and error. It has to be shaped by the first.

    I still can't say if that really fits to it .. but actually most people know at least slightly what to expect when they read it.

    As for now ill leave it like that (as part of the description). If in about 2 years the term "Web2.0" doesn't exist anymore (or turns out to mean something totally different), at least this piece of code does remain and can be used by everyone who likes it.

    regards,
    - m3nt0r

  26. hisyam
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    having trouble loading those sites here =/

  27. BoInG
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    yep - the link is down :(

  28. Ment0r
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    yes. sorry everybody. i dont know why.. my host seemed to had problems today. any site hosted was slowis or not responding :/ it works now

  29. Nicki Faulk
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    This looks really impressive, I can't wait to install it in my test system and play with it! :)

  30. redalert5
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    i luv ajax it really saves alot of bw and makes the pages loads very fast. when can we download this?

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