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Accessibility fix suggestion (7 posts)

  1. davideagle
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hello, I am blind and so am using a screen reader to access WordPress. I started using WordPress two or three months ago and WordPress 3.3.1 was very accessible. However, 3.3.2 has broken a lot of the accessibility on the dashboard. I think this might be to do with the new 'fly out' menus. I can't access about 75% of the links. Certain screen readers aren't reading the links at the top of the screen.

    What I am suggesting is a basic HTML version of the dashboard for people using screen readers. Would anyone be interested in doing this? I propose that there is then a link addedd at the top of the screen that is called something like "basic HTML version. screen reader users click here". The link should obviously be a standard link, not an image link so as to avoid any problems.

    I tried pasting my WordPress dashboard into Microsoft Word and weirdly, I got access to all the links that I couldn't access in Internet Explorer. I have since created a very rudimentary HTML file so that I am able to access WordPress myself, but this is not an HTML version of the live dashboard (which is what I am proposing), it is merely a static HTML file.

    Thanks for your attention.

  2. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 2 years ago #

    [Moved to Requests & Feedback since 3.3 is no longer in alpha or beta]

    So what you're suggesting would be rather like the "Enable accessibility" option in Appearance -> Widgets?

    I think you are correct in your assumption about the flyout menus. They are accessible & do meet access guidelines if you are using the latest version of JAWS (or at least that's what the last round of testing appeared to indicate) but that may not be the case with other screen reader software.

    Have you had a look at http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/expanded-admin-menus/ That plugin expands all of the menus by default - which should result in easier navigation for you.

  3. davideagle
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hi esmi, using my HTML file I managed to get to the Widgets menu. Unfortunately I didn’t see anything regarding accessibility. I downloaded the plugin to expand menus. I installed and activated it but it seemingly has made no difference to accessibility; in fact the menus read exactly the same. I then installed the most up-to-date version of JAWS and alas the WordPress dashboard reads exactly the same. I will install Firefox and test it and report back.

    I have a backup of my database file. I suppose I could always uninstall WordPress and start again in case something is broken at my end; after all, subpages have stopped working for me for some strange reason and so something might have gone wrong with my install of WordPress (if that’s possible). Is there a WordPress dashboard that I can log in to in order to check that it isn’t just my install of WordPress that has gone wrong? I have it installed on Localhost but for some reason that has also stopped working and just shows a 404 error – so many chalenges. I would hate to think that I am giving you misinformation. If I can isolate the variables then we’ll have a better idea of what’s going on. I am sure it was all working great in the previous version of WordPress. It was accessible with JAWS, NVDA, SYSTEM ACCESS TO GO, and Voice-Over on the Mac and Iphone. It is seemingly no longer accessible with any of these programmes, although we have minimal accessibility with JAWS. If I had come to WordPress at the current stage then I would have probably assumed it to be inaccessible, but fortunately I came in a couple of months before the new version.

    Thanks.

  4. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 2 years ago #

    using my HTML file I managed to get to the Widgets menu. Unfortunately I didn’t see anything regarding accessibility.

    It's in the Screen Options tab near the very top of the page.

  5. davideagle
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    OK, I found it. That works great for the Widget view; it adds "edit" and "add" links to each widget meaning that I can now access the widget menu. But it doesn't affect the actual main dashboard screen which is still as inaccessible as it was before.

    I am going to set up the previous version of WordPress on a directory on my site and compare and contrast, because I am sure that this has all broken in the last two months.

    We will get there in the end!

  6. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 2 years ago #

    But it doesn't affect the actual main dashboard screen which is still as inaccessible as it was before.

    Agreed. At this time, the Accessibility option applies to the Widgets page only. Nothing similar has yet been added to the main menu. But I would have thought that the Dashboard was pretty accessible using the JAWS Headings list?

    Note: It might be worth moving this discussion over to http://make.wordpress.org/accessibility/ Yes?

  7. davideagle
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hi, yes, feel free to move this to http://make.wordpress.org/accessibility/

    The JAWS headings list completely misses out all of the top links like updates, appearance, plugins, pages etc because they are not headings, or at least don't show as headings to me. Also, JAWS does not see links like "settings" and "appearance". VoiceOver and, NVDA and SATOGO don't see any of the main dashboard links. NVDA just says "link" and SATOGO just misses the links out. I am currently downgrading to the last version of WordPress and will report on my success. I will post in http://make.wordpress.org/accessibility/ from now on.

    Thanks.

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