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A small suggestion for the new /hosting page here (12 posts)

  1. Rob Poitras
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Seems like a good idea so far.

    Only thing I would add, is something that would kind of edumacate people about what to look for in a good host. I have had a couple hosts since I started playing with websites.

    tech support
    I would say tech support/communication is an important factor. Someone that you can form a relation with, that can help (or you pay them) to install updates/hacks on various mysql/php programs. Or someone who can even help you figure out probelms on your wordpress install.

    Pricing
    You shouldnt have to pay for a setup charge. Keep in mind that you always get what you pay for. Try to find out how loaded the server is. Some places can overload a server because its economically better for them. But for the functionality of the site, it hurts speed/load times.

    Other lil things
    Make sure to get cpanel or another good admin control panel. [Opinion: I hate dreamhost's admin cp. Its hard to do much in there. Cpanel is years ahead of there cp.]
    having a support forum on their site is always nice. That way you can get a direct feel for how they treat their customers. And a forum in my opinion is one of the best ways to keep in contact with your customers for ongoing problems where multiple people need to interact.
    Another factor is think about how easy it is to expand/contract.
    You might want unlimited mysql db's but end up finding out that you only need one (wp install of course) and you dont need all the bandwidth. Or your site is growing big time and you need more bandwidth. What are the bandwidth overage charges? How easy is it to upgrade to a better plan?
    Is there a fee for downgrading to a smaller plan?

  2. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    All great points, but I'm not sure it's meant for the Hosting page, since the intent there is to simply point folk to hosts that have good feedback around here. But hey, could make a nice addition to Codex (hint hint).

  3. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Opinion: I hate dreamhost's admin cp. Its hard to do much in there. Cpanel is years ahead of there cp.

    Just wanted to chime in with two good things about DreamHost's custom Control Panel. #1, it comes custom-tailored to what each plan offers. #2, it's hosted on a central server where as cPanel is always hosted on your server. If your cPanel-powered site were to go down, you would also not be able to access cPanel. If your DreamHost site were to go down, you would still be able to access your Control Panel, chat with support, and monitor the situation. And, if you want to know more about cPanel vs. DH's custom Panel, you can read into it here. I've tried a cPanel host before too. Personally, I prefer DH's Control Panel, but that's a matter of opinion.

    Which brings up a point that all of the above are strictly opinions, especially when it comes to "How to Find a Good Host". Honestly, I think the way Matt has done it (establish a personal relationship with the host and open a hosting account) is the best way possible. Basically, it says, "The lead developer of WordPress has personally approved these hosts."

  4. Rob Poitras
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    meh, I still dont like DH cp. Speaking in terms of usability, its bad. To me thats important when I cant even figure out how to add a mysql db. (opinion again) but anyway...

    What about this for part of that hosting page:

    Things to consider for picking a host.

  5. Service
  6. Flexibility
  7. Pricing
  8. It is helpful that Matt has already filtered out the junk and that means that the above hosts all have great S, F, & P

  • James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    To me thats important when I cant even figure out how to add a mysql db.

    In the DH Control Panel, you just go to Goodies/MySQL and fill in the fields under "Create a new MySQL database". I'm not sure what could be considered "difficult" about that.

  • Matt Mullenweg
    Troublemaker
    Posted 9 years ago #

    The listing isn't perfect, nor set in stone. If we hear a lot of complaints we'll re-evaluate the host and consider bringing in another one.

  • Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    My 2 c? Stay the heck away from hosts using Windows. (IIS)

  • James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Stay the heck away from hosts using Windows. (IIS)

    I agree.

  • AndWat
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    When you say, "Stay the heck away from hosts using Windows. (IIS)," are you advising that we avoid:
    - Windows, the operating system, the competitors of which include Linux
    - IIS, the web server, the competitors of which include Apache
    - any and all Microsoft products
    ?

    There is at least one host that uses Windows as the o/s and Apache as the web server. It's the one I use, happily so far: weblogs.us.

  • Oh gosh yes, especially if they use Plesk as a cpanel. It's a nightmare.

  • James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    When Root say, "Stay the heck away from hosts using Windows. (IIS)," he means, "Stay the heck away from hosts using Windows and IIS."

  • Christine
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Matt, any word yet on how to be added to the hosting page? Since we've been hosting WP sites since the early versions, I would love to see us added. I've e-mailed, but no response. :-/ Now that we're offering "PHP only" servers (starting tomorrow), it's an even bigger perk for WP users. No lag time created by other CMS systems that cause high server loads!

    Plus, for clients referred to us by the WP hosting page (or these forums), we'll be making donations to help WP out. It's a win-win for everyone ... if only we can get through the hoops to be added.

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