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1. miamittom
   Member
   Posted 3 years ago #

   I have wordpress installed on several sites.

   The index page of every wordpress site I have kills the keywords used by adsense to make the ads relevant.

   A couple of examples ...

   http://www.miamiandthebeaches.com/wordpress/
   http://www.innercycling.com/blogs/

   Any other blog page in wordpress shows the ads correctly, but Wordpress's index page or whatver it is that determines the first or home page of the blog is killing the ability to show the ads correctly.

   Is there some place in Wordpress where I can fix it so that it doesn't kill my keywords?

   I've manually pasted my HEAD KEYWORD information into various templates, and the pages work fine but the home page is killed for keywords.

   What are you people doing?

2. Balistic86
   Member
   Posted 3 years ago #

   i went to the miami site, and found the keywords in the ads relevent, it takes time for them to happen but to me it all appears normal.

3. miamittom
   Member
   Posted 3 years ago #

   No, look at the first page of the blog - the ad is totally irrelevant.

   I've tried this with the smaller Google text ads - same result.

   Pick any other post and you'll get relevant ads. One that seems to be recurring is about Florida condos. The first page shows something about Deer Creek Lodge and not about Miami or The Beaches.

4. miamittom
   Member
   Posted 3 years ago #

   Look at http://innercycling.com/blogs/

   The ad is for Ringtones. Nothing to do with the site. Subsequent ads are correct.

5. Balistic86
   Member
   Posted 3 years ago #

   im telling you, for me they arent they are about holidays to miami and stuff

6. GadeTerbob
   Member
   Posted 3 years ago #

   For the miami beach link, I saw a florida condo ad and for the innercycling link I saw aerobics and exercise ads. Looks relevant to me.

7. miamittom
   Member
   Posted 3 years ago #

   OK ... so someone at Google is reading my posts and fixing it before you guys get there.

   I'm tellin ya, the first page is interpreted differently than subsequent pages, and this will only be fixed when someone who writes Wordpress code has it happen to them.

   Sitting in a cubicle writing code where the Wordpress coder's job is not dependent upon ad revenue will ensure that this is never fixed.

   The fact remains that the first page is interpeted differently and they are killing my keywords.

8. samboll
   moderator
   Posted 3 years ago #

   All index ads look relevant to me, also, for what is on your index.
   The index setup doesn't have the ability to kill keywords. Google site indexing is totally responsible for ad content based on what it gathers. Admittedly, it takes about 4 weeks of indexing to get totally relevant ads.

9. miamittom
   Member
   Posted 3 years ago #

   No it doesn't take 4 weeks.

   You get immediate feedback from Google when you adjust the keywords.

   In fact, anyone wanting to know how their site stacks up with SEO should use Adsense - it immediately shows any deficiencies in how you SEO your pages because if you do your keywprds and content correctly, you get the right ads, rightaway, not in 4 weeks.

10. samboll
    moderator
    Posted 3 years ago #

    OK - you win. WP is killing your site. And what Google themselves state is totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

11. miamittom
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    OK ... so now that I have had a few people hitting the site from several new locations, the ads are coming up relevant now.

    Plus there is a conspiracy at Google against me to make me look foolish.

    Go figure. I know what I saw though.

12. Otto42
    Moderator
    Posted 3 years ago #

    miamittom: Yes, I have seen what you are talking about, but it comes and goes. The thing about relevance is that they're trying to place ads immediately relevant to the page content. For an index page, there's a lot of varying content, and sometimes it mucks up the relevance factors and ends up with more generic ads instead.

    But it does take a day or two to see any changes, things don't happen immediately. Google must crawl the page again before they see what's new.

    Using Google Sitemaps and a sitemaps plugin helps with this, as it lets you ping Google when pages change all automatically. Also, using the Google ad markers around your post texts (in The Loop) helps significantly. It's little minor things like these that help Google make ads more relevant overall.

    Also, don't forget that "relevance" is a fuzzy term, as they may not have any relevant ad buyers for your content at any given moment. What's relevant depends on who's currently buying, and that varies from moment to moment.

13. itrends
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    The ads are context sensitive and show fine for me.

    Where you are located can make a difference to what ads are served up.

    Wordpress does NOT kill your words at all. It is simply what google is deciding to serve up.

    I have no idea why you keep arguing the point when we can all see them just fine to be honest.

    Have you been to another computer at a different location, meaning not in the same street or building or on the same connection.

    Try going via a proxy / anon browsing website and see what you get then.

    The ads are fine. Dont worry. :)

    Dave
    PS, I am a search engine specialist of 7 years, its my job to know. I guess you are also aware that the media bot and google spider have been merged into one crawler. Though they visit straight away it can take time for the correct ads to start showing.

14. itrends
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Oh, and if you still dont believe any of us then perhaps we shall take some screen caps? Or maybe even just ignore you instead. Ho hum! :d

15. itrends
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Sorry, just read your post saying you now know whats going on, still, most of what I said still stands :)

    Dave

16. davidchait
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    
    Sitting in a cubicle writing code where the Wordpress coder's job is not dependent upon ad revenue will ensure that this is never fixed.
    

    Ummm... most everyone contributing code, or themes, or plugins, or support, are doing so from the comfort of their home. No cubicle jockeys, there is no 'wordpress office' aside from Matt's house. ;) I myself spend tons of time building and supporting plugins, but nobody is paying me to do it (except for the once-in-a-blue-moon donation, which I appreciate).

    And how much did you pay for WordPress? And how many donations have you made to the core or to people you've used code or themes from?

    -d

17. miamittom
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    You're absolutely right! I haven't paid a dime to Wordpress or anyone connected with the project!

    Howwever, I have promoted your product far and wide by using it on several sites.

    I'm the one telling people to ignore the warts your program (or anyone elses program) has, and help them to learn and use YOUR work. I'm the one who tells them that something stupid in your program will probably be worked out in a future release and help YOU keep your product out there.

    Getting your name in lights is the real reason most people code for open source projects, and I'm sure some actually code for the love of the game, honing your skills, but your primary motivation is not The Money - which you typically make somewhere else.

    When an open source app gains critical mass to the extent that it has developer mind share, and demand from users for the product is high, you all enjoy your moment in the sun, while those of us out in the real world implement your work.

    When support at an individual level is impossible because of the popularity of the product, we have to dig and search for real contact information and weave thru several walls and levels of obfuscation to get to the real people behind the walls. Dealing with arrogant "Read the FAQ" or "RTFM", and "You Can't Complain Lest You've Paid" (Monty Python) attitudes when those of us who promote your work is additionally frustrating.

    I keep absolutes to a minimum, and I was truly seeing a problem - and if you or anyone else had seen it on my browser the way I did, then it wouldn't be so easy to be so dismissive.

    When Google's cache or some cache related issue with their servers or my browser or whatever is the issue, is finally resolved, then things work. This delay in feedback makes determining the problem even more difficult because we want to fix things, fix them quickly and we expect a "hmm maybe" vs "you're crazy" when illuminating an issue.

    When an issue is dismissed out of hand without a "maybe" and when others who think they are helping become equally dismissive, it pushes your product into an unsupportable situation, making me want to find one that does what I need.

    Thanks to all those who did try to help.

18. miamittom
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    It's ok to delete this post now. It WAS a conversation, now the conversation is ended and being past tense there is no point in keeping since the problem has resolved itself.

19. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    why on earth then, did you revive it? the last post had been by YOU on 5/18 - no one's done anything but ignore it since then. until you had to bring it back up by telling someone to delete it?

    me thinks you have found that you were wrong...
    and rather than reviving this with a request to delete, maybe you should humble yourself to an apology for all of YOUR harsh words and incorrect arguments.

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