Posted 3 years ago #
Hi,
Has anyone had any luck getting permalinks to work with netfirms hosting? I have played around with it, but always get 404 errors when I try and click around.
Do I have to do something special on the server with mod_rewrite? Or does netfirms not support this at all?
Thanks,
Chris
Posted 3 years ago #
I guess its just not possible?
Ask your host whether they support mod_rewrite or not. You cannot do anything about it.
Have you tried all of the troubleshooting tips?
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Permalinks#Fixing_Permalink_Problems
You will also need to ask netfirms about mod_rewrite support. We don't know if they support it, but I'm sure that they know.
Posted 2 years ago #
I use Netfirms. They do support Permalinks by default:
http://support.netfirms.com/idx.php/57/669/Netfirms-WordPress/article/How-do-I-create-search-engine-safe-URLs-in-Wordpress.html
Now netfirm is lying (not the first time, btw) - if you need to put in the "index.php" bit, then they do not support anything :)
Posted 2 years ago #
I've just set up WP2.0 up on a Netfirms hosted domain (I tried to use their one click installer but it went all screwy so I installed it manually) and I'm getting the same problem.
The fix that Seeds linked to above doesn't work for me at all.
WP should update the .htaccess file automatically when I change the Permalink structure yes? I don't need to chmod to 666(?) or something fancy before changing my settings in the QP admin? I'm (obviously) a bit new to both WP and Apache.
My .htaccess is currently
# BEGIN WordPress
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /blog/
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /blog/index.php
</IfModule>
# END WordPress
edit:
sorry, reading this thread
http://wordpress.org/support/topic/63887?replies=10
are the contents of .htaccess irrelevant anyway?
also, I've uploaded the two updated files from this thread to no avail
http://wordpress.org/support/topic/54340?replies=39#post-298609
If the .htaccess file is not writable (=chmod 666) then WP cannot write "automatically" to it. Yes, you do have to change the permissions on the .htaccess file.
Posted 2 years ago #
Thanks Moshu. I'm thinking perhaps it's not relevant anyway under WP 2, based on what I've read.
The contents of the .htaccess file don't seem to be updated in response to changes to the Permalink options in the admin at any rate, no matter what it's permissions are set to.
Since WP.2.x the rewrite rules are handled internally (whatever that means, don't ask, I am not a coder :) BUT seemingly you still have to chmod the file. Its content is the same for everybody.
Posted 2 years ago #
Cool thanks. I have what seems to be the standard in there so I'll just keep an eye out. It looks like a few people have had issues since upgrading to 2.x
Posted 2 years ago #
Sorry to bump this but I thought an answer would be better than to leave the thread open ended.
I emailed their support, they replied - a day or so later:
At the moment, we do not offer AllowOverride for .htaccess. It has been added to our list of client requested features and may be included in a future service upgrade.
So I guess in this case they're not being entirely truthful. Their support pages specifically mention that they support mod_rewrite, but unless I don't quite understand how it works (quite possible) they don't actually support it at all.
Shame.
Posted 2 years ago #
OK last necropost.
It's only fair I note that the latest newsletter from Netfirms notes that mod_rewrite is now supported (on at least some of their hosting packages, mine included)
I've not tested it, but in theory it's now officially supported.
Posted 2 years ago #
I am using Netfirms as well. I have WP 2.0.2 manually installed. My permalinks work only in default. I have .htaccess turned on but as previously posted this should not be an issue. I have chmod to 666.
I have tried numerous ways to get the "pretty permalinks" to work but no luck thus far.
If anyone else figures out why this is happening and how to fix it, please advise.
Other than getting a decent host... I don't really know what to say.
You cannot find one single postive mentioning of your host in this forum.
Posted 2 years ago #
I am paid up with Netfirms for another 7 months but honestly, I have had no problems with them. The tech support people have helped me fix so many things. I don't think my permalink problem has anything to do with Netfirms. I think it has to do with permalinks in 2.0.2 not working for everybody and no one having a clue how to fix them. I did a search for 2.0 and permalinks and dozens of threads concerning this issue come up.
Previously I had installed Word Press through Netfirms (2.0.1) and my permalinks were fine. Then I thought I should upgrade because of the security issue. That is when I lost a years worth of blogs (my fault, but Netfirms helped me retrieve a back-up file).
As soon as I manually installed Word Press 2.0.2 everything went south. I have stripped my site down to the bare bones in an attempt to fix the permalink problem but nothing works and I have lost traffic as a result. Again, it is my fault that I lost a years worth of blogs and it was my choice not to try and get them back up. I just thought a fresh install might be all I needed.
I am not a code expert and I think I got in way over my head trying to manually install Word Press. If it were not for the tech support people at Netfirms, there would be nothing on my page right now. As for 2.0.2 I don't know if the security benefits of having it are worth all the trouble I have gone through in the last 3 weeks trying to get it to work. If anyone finds a way to fix the permalink issue in 2.0.2 I hope they post it for those of us who still can not figure it out.
Posted 2 years ago #
To comment on the netfirms vs wordpress permalink issue, I'm running into the same issue with Netfirms.
However...
I know of a blog running wordpress 2.0.2 on a different host, that has permalinks running fine.
I setup a blog running wordpress 2.0.3 on yet another host, that has permalinks running fine.
I setup a blog running wordpress 2.0.4 on netfirms, that permalinks doesn't work with. It was previously running wordpress 1.5 for which permalinks didn't work either.
I've logged a support request with netfirms to solve this issue, but haven't heard back yet.
Something tells me it's not a wordpress issue - why would 2.0.2 and 2.0.3 work on other hosts, but 2.0.4 and 1.5 not work on netfirms? I'm guessing there weren't many changes between 2.0.2, 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 that related to permalinks. It's a fairly straightforward issue.
Yes, it is a straightforward issue: Pretty Permalinks (sans index.php) ain't gonna happen without AllowOverride on.
Posted 2 years ago #
They directed me to the page below - which seems to indicate that it'll work, but they haven't any examples that use REQUEST_FILENAME .. I verified that it'll do rewrite's, but it just wouldn't do anything with the wordpress generated .htaccess configuration.
Posted 2 years ago #
I haven't figured out a proper solution, but it seems pre-pending "index.php" to your permalink structure allows it to work.
So, in the wp-admin tool, under options -> permalinks, enter this into "custom, specify below:" /index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/
I found this here:
http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2004/06/01/use-nice-permalinks-in-wordpress-without-the-use-of-mod_rewrite/
I'm guessing netfirms is running off IIS or some non-apache rewrite module, which is causing the problems.
Posted 2 years ago #
I'm having the same issue. It's really very annoying as I only set up the site a couple of days ago, and I'm already considering chucking NetFirms (the FTP access is slow too).
I'm running with the standard WP-generated .htaccess file, and permalinks don't work properly.
Can anyone post a non-working permalink on a Netfirms hosted site, so I can compare to mine? Cheers.
Qmnonic, they aren't running via IIS:
curl -I http://www.earthmostlyharmless.net/2006/09/14/comments-not-working/
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:26:09 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.34 (Unix) mod_perl/1.26
X-Pingback: http://www.earthmostlyharmless.net/xmlrpc.php
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.0.5
Vary: NFInfo
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
X-Pad: avoid browser bug
X-Cache: MISS from www.earthmostlyharmless.net
Posted 2 years ago #
I'm having the same problem. I just set up a WordPress 2.0.4 site on Netfirms, have identical settings to a WP 2.0.4 site that I have setup elsewhere (GoDaddy), and the permalinks do not work unless I add index.php to the structure, which is definitely not what I want.
BigRedBall666, you can check out the broken permalinks on my test site www.awstoronto.com, although I'm playing around with it so am occasionally switching back to the index.php structure to try things out. All of the navigation at the top is broken except for the first link (Upcoming Events), since it is the home page, and the last link (Blog) which is hard-coded for now.
As an aside, I'm also concerned about Netfirms' slowness, I have ftp performance problems but also really serious database performance problems, which impacts loading any of the pages on my WP site.
Posted 2 years ago #
As an FYI, I had netfirms support looking into the issue (I set them up an instance of wordpress with permalinks for them to debug, they wouldn't look into it themselves). After 5 days of nothing, I cancelled and switched to http://www.superwebhost.ca and haven't had any issues. The http://www.superwebhost.ca info pages are slow, but my site is fast and I have no issues with permalinks.
Posted 2 years ago #
I had problem with WordPress Permalink with Netfirm hosting.
Sometimes it works, but comment link doesn't work.
I got it figured out by selecting Custom option and put /index.php/archives/%post_id%/ in the custom structure field.
Steve
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Posted 2 years ago #
Ah, that works for me also:
/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%postname%/
I'd love to figure out a way to get that index.php out of there, though. Otherwise I guess I'll have to establish redirects from my old Blogger URls.
If you have read carefully the whole thread you could see that on netfirms there is no way to get rid of the "index.php" part... which means regardless what they say - nice permalinks do NOT work on their server.
Get a normal host, that's the only solution.
Posted 2 years ago #
Thanx for the info, I was just wondering about this — they're offering what looks like a pretty good deal, but not having nice permalinks taints it.
Posted 2 years ago #
Torley, I would have never gone with Netfirms if I had known about the permalinks problem, and I've also had some serious performance problems. I have another WP blog on godaddy.com, which I know has its own set of problems, but permalinks are not one of them: it behaves pretty well and is about the same price. As for Netfirms, I signed up for a year because it dropped the price further, and since it's for a non-profit organization's site that I run, I can't just forget it and pay again for another hosting company, so I think that I'm stuck on Netfirms for the year. Won't be renewing, however.
Posted 2 years ago #
I created a new blog using the latest version Wordpress 2.0.5
Permalinks works without any modifications. Just make sure that you have .htaccess turned on in the control panel.
Go to Wordpress admin and click on Option and Permalinks. Then select “Date and name based” so the urls will look like /2006/11/08/sample-post/
Posted 2 years ago #
Seeds, that's a nice fantasy, but it doesn't actually work on Netfirms. If you change the options as stated, all links become broken and just link to the home page. That's the whole point of this post. You have to have "index.php" in the URL or it doesn't work.
Netfirms technical support explicitly told me that they do not provide AllowOverride on .htaccess, which is why this doesn't work; until they can support that, we're all screwed on this issue as long as we keep hosting on Netfirms.
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