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[closed] 3.8 admin panel design is very bad (91 posts)

  1. Jehy
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Second topic about wordpress admin panel design. First one was removed. May be, it's not a feedback forum? Oh, no, it is. Then why?

    So, those were the most negitive impressions for my six years of using and coding for wordpress.

    Hello, design from just-after-millenuum. Ugly fonts, dark and eyes-wrestling navigation... And I clearly remember that there was a plugin for wordpress 2.x which made admin area look exactly same.

    Oh, here it is.

    Screenshot.

    But this old plugin looks better then wordpress looks now.

    What's with new clean style of navigation from Google and Apple? Why did you return to design 5 years older?

    Please return admin style from 3.7 and leave this "design" in this plugin - http://wordpress.org/plugins/mp6/

  2. Second topic about wordpress admin panel design. First one was removed. May be, it's not a feedback forum? Oh, no, it is. Then why?

    If you want to criticize and provide feedback then that is of course fine. Just please do so without the expletives.

  3. Jehy
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Ok, sorry. Too much emotions after update : )

  4. Passion can be good but let's try to keep the conversation civil. You'll influence more people that way. ;)

  5. Andrew
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 8 months ago #

    You can change the colour scheme to something lighter when you edit a user.

  6. dvk01uk
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    None of the colour schemes suit me. I cannot see light type on a dark background
    the fonts are too large.
    if you use a theme with lots of widgets, then the widget panel in 3.8 is total mess with difficulty in moving, dragging and dropping widgets etc
    all in all the admin panel should have an option to allow users to revert to 3.7.x style which works perfectly for me & others

  7. Jehy
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Yup, there should be option for reverting to clean and clear 3.7 style.

  8. decisive
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    With this new update, font size is out of control, and the black on white design kills my eyes...

    I'm on WordPress sites publishing content for most of my day.

    I have to constantly scroll around which takes me more time. Aren't updates supposed to make things easier??

    I could give a flying flip about WP back-end aesthetics. (Which, by the way the last 3.7 style looked great.) All I can think of is how much more time this new design is stealing from my day.

    And don't even get me started on the new black bar with white font. White font is harder on the eyes. I tried changing in users setting, and agree there should be a way to select clean black font with white background!

  9. Nico
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    My very strong guess is that there will be some plugin that will restore the old style. From millions of users there will be some percentage who does not like this ( change ;) ) and at least one of them will be a dev and code a plugin.

    I personally love it. For my eyes the font is super easy to read. It all has contrast now easy to see sections, widgets, menu items ... The gray background and the white input fields on top of it just looks so good ;)

    To me the new style is eye-candy to me. I somehow understand the where the thoughts coming from when they say this is 90s, because it may look like DOS, Norton Commander or just old to them. But if you really look at it, there was no Open Sans in the 90s and its really modern to have no shadows, no rounded borders and just flat simple style. I think the did a superb job with this.

    I even understand more if people no like the black bars, if this is the case just to edit your user and select the 'light' theme. If your not instant happy then try it at few days and lets see if you really want the old style back or its maybe just the dark bars.

    Also the http://jehy.ru/articles/wp-content/uploads//fluency_writepost1.jpg screenshot you posted has only one similarity with the 3.8 style and this is the black bars. It's really ugly, there are worlds between this and the 3.8 style!

  10. sardisson
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    As a specific criticism, all of the icons look flat and/or washed-out in all of the color schemes *other* than the default "black and white" (which is too much contrast, way too harsh, and way too dark for my eyes) :(

    So the choice is apparently "harsh and dark" or "washed out and blah" :-(

  11. Mosin Mark
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    I miss the separators, everything just runs together now. Those line between things really helped me know where I was. I'm using Woo Commerce and the only color scheme that works right is the dark.. I really would like the option for the old color scheme until either Woo fixes their color schemes or you allow me the freedom to choose what I would like the admin area to look like

    Thanks for the hard work, you just missed it on this one

    Mark

  12. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    The admin UI in 3.8 is fantastic. The MP6 integration turned out just awesome. I'm sure it won't be long before there are plugins for those who want to tweak things beyond the already available per-user options. For anyone interested in some of the thought processes and development: Make WordPress Core > MP6 — 3.8 Proposal

  13. mch0lic
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Well if nobody will come up with plugin to set admin design back to good all days I'm going to be one of those folks with coding skills and preference for 3.7 admin design. Not that I care but my clients will surely do and they going to give me hard time about this unwanted unrequested change...

    Why not leaving the option for 3.7 design even if its not default. I mean its all good to move forward but you need to leave option to roll back especially when you have like 1M+ blogs around the web who are willing to keep up with bug fixed and so on, but don't want to get their admin interface ruined :/

  14. Andrew
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Did you introduce WordPress to them as a constantly-updating technology right at the start? You can use that explanation to fall back on. I can see it can be a problem if the clients think you're in control of the software behind their site though.

    It sounds like an IE6 situation where your clients continue to use the worse version because they're familiar with it "and it works just fine", no strawman intended.

  15. olyma
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Yeah, it is odd that they don’t somehow leave folks a 3.7 skin for the site, or didn’t set one up b/c it doesn’t seem to me that it would be that difficult to set up. Still...

    Mosin Mark, it’s pretty easy to reskin the admin. You can make a simple plugin to add separating lines between menu items, or alter the admin however you like.

    <?php
    /*
    Plugin Name: Menu Separators
    */
    
    function menu_seps1() {
    ?>
    <style type="text/css">
    #adminmenu li.wp-has-submenu,
    #adminmenu li.menu-top-last {
    	border-top: #313131 1px solid;
    	border-bottom: #181818 1px solid;
    }
    #adminmenuwrap {
    	border-top: #181818 1px solid;
    }
    </style>
    <?php
    }
    add_action( 'admin_head', 'menu_seps1' );
     ?>

    You can fiddle with the colors to make them a bit different, but the above code should add separators for you.

  16. mch0lic
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Most clients especially not in IT field have little knowledge about WordPress or software life cycle in general. The only thing they care is their website and that it works and the last thing they want is update on something they already got used to. As I said earlier, its not an issue for me, but for many of my clients it will be and thats the problem that seems to be not address when introducing the change without a option to stay with old theme.

    WordPress is very popular CMS and drastic visual changes will definitely affect a lot of people, so was it that hard to include old theme as an option and let people choose? I guess not, but it seems that development is focused more on developers then on end users who prefer little (NOT DRASTIC) changes over the time.

  17. bubblerapper
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    I can't stand this. I loved WordPress for their excellent organization and very read-able, beautiful interface. The fonts were strong and the visual elements had a slight "3D" aspect which made it very comfortable to look at and operate.

    But like many other sites and applications, they've changed their interface to look amateurish, flat, ugly and bland, harder to read quickly, has zero distinctions/divisions among visual elements, and looks exactly like the boring trend careening across so-called "modern" website designs now. It's like one of those terrible cheap sites people first made when we learned how to code HTML in high school.

    WordPress used to be beautiful! Now it looks like Yahoo. It's as if 3.7 was designed by Apple's excellent GUI designers and 3.8 was designed by the corner-cutting high school interns who 'design' GUIs for all the cheap tablet imitators.

  18. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    @bubblerapper

    Hee hee.. I'm betting you never experienced the joy of using WP versions prior to 2.7 :-)

  19. francismaile
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    I agree. Bad design. The team took something that wasn't broken and broke it. Looking forward to the plugin that will take it back to the better way.

  20. yiotta
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Oy! The new colors are pretty, but much harder to view, as so many others have stated above. I can't find a single color theme that is as good (IMHO) as the great 3.7 interface.

    And what happened to the option for 2 columns? On my screen, there are always 3 columns now. There's an empty dotted box in the third column. I'd rather have the option for 2 wider columns, instead of a hint that I can move things into a unnecessary third column. Grumble.

  21. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    And what happened to the option for 2 columns? On my screen, there are always 3 columns now.

    It's responsive. Smaller viewport = less columns. Ex: 1650x1080 = 3 columns; Laptop res = 2 columns; mobile devices = 1 column.

    There's an empty dotted box in the third column

    Drag and drop a dashboard widget into the empty box position.

  22. yiotta
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Thank you. I just have no need for 3 columns on my laptop. I have a total of 3 items, now all smaller than necessary, and therefore less legible. Sigh! Responsive to whom? (you don't have to answer that -- I get the idea; just wish they still gave us an option that was quite useful).

  23. lko
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Is there a way the revert to the old admin theme? this new admin theme is hideous.

  24. WPyogi
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 8 months ago #

    No.

  25. mch0lic
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Yellow folks!

    Just spared a few minutes for a old theme plugin. It's not perfect and there are quite a few annoying things. But I hope to sort these over the time with everyones help. Don;t have much more time right now as I have to finish up some other projects but hope to get sorted out the last bits till the end of the next week.

    Here is the link to plugin (if it won't be rejected):
    http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-admin-classic/

    Cheers!

  26. Jehy
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Why remove post about plugin which makes admin area look 3.7 and the plugin itself? That's total user abuse.

  27. Why remove post about plugin which makes admin area look 3.7 and the plugin itself?

    Take a deep breath and repeat after me: spam filters. These forums get a LOT of spam and sometimes posts get deleted with the spam. ;)

    I checked this topic (I check many topic that I'd replied to) and saw those to posts and undeleted them.

    Personally I think that the plugin is a bad idea but that's my opinion. The WordPress admin pages can be themed as the MP6 plugin demonstrated.

  28. skunkbad
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    I've been using WordPress for a few years now. I've developed plugins, custom themes, and managed to create just about anything I've needed from WordPress. This new v3.8 admin area is barf ugly. I've got good eyesight, and it hurts my eyes to look at. I can barely read the font in the admin menu. Please change it back or fix the styling!!!

  29. Aksam Zarook
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    I have used wordpress as the cms for several of my client's websites and they like the old backend color scheme and look. Now if I update their wordpress to new version the backend look will change. I'm not sure how they will react but I'm sure many of my clients will ask me why I changed their backend look or why change anything for their site when they didn't request it. What shall I do? this change is unnessary for my clients.

  30. Jehy
    Member
    Posted 8 months ago #

    Take a deep breath and repeat after me: spam filters.

    Oh. I am terrribly sorry. Didn't know about them.

    The WordPress admin pages can be themed as the MP6 plugin demonstrated

    Yep, wordpress admin theme for 3.7 would be good too.

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