Posted 4 months ago #
Hi,
New web designer here.
I initially designed my site without taking internet explorer's glitches into account. Therefore, I had to go back later and redo almost the whole site to make it look correct.
My question is this:
is there a way to design so that you know it will automatically work with i.e.? are there any sites you can suggest that will help with this?
thx,
brooklynmodern.com
LOL! No.
I generally design a site to be semantically correct, then add styling to make it look the way I want, then, after the site is working, I spend the next few hours working around IE bugs. Generally if you're semantically correct, and the site validates, and the styling isn't too insane, then it mostly will work in IE and you only have to deal with bounding box issues or similar.
On some of my own personal sites, I simply block IE users or give them a message that points them to an alternative browser or three. It's easier than trying to deal with IE, and unless I'm making money for it, it makes no sense to try to hit that audience. Even when I am making money for it, I've stopped supporting IE6 entirely. The audience of IE 6 users finally dropped low enough to make that not matter. Especially since they pushed IE8 out over Windows Update.
Posted 4 months ago #
Otto42, I wish that was 100% the truth. There are plenty of places that still use IE6, simply because they refuse to upgrade 100 PC's ghost images, or because they're in another country besides America.
I do a lot of multilingual sites and you'd be surprised how often the IE6 discussion comes up. Russia, Mexico, Panama, Brazil... Lots of people still use whatever came with their computer 6 years ago.
brooklynmodern, now you know why web developers/designers get paid the big bucks. :) When you need to speak a minimum of 5 languages (php, css, js, xhtml, xml) and make them work in at least 5 different alternate realities (firefox, safari, opera, IE6, IE7+) you end up doing quite a bit more work than DreamWeaver can do on its own.
My suggestion is to find a WordPress theme/template to learn off of. Use it as your benchmark and start creating your own custom themes from it. There's quite a few skeleton themes out there that have really good HTML markup that are just begging for CSS to fill in the blanks.
Also try the IETester for de-bugging in various versions of IE. And try using conditional comments to serve up additional IE version-specific CSS sheets rather than using hacks.
I do a lot of multilingual sites and you'd be surprised how often the IE6 discussion comes up. Russia, Mexico, Panama, Brazil... Lots of people still use whatever came with their computer 6 years ago.
I don't do a lot of multilingual sites, and the contracts I usually work don't involve trying to sell overseas. So they're not a target audience.
Posted 4 months ago #
Thx for all the responses.
This is all mind boggling, but I can see why web designers get the big $!!!!
This is all mind boggling, but I can see why web designers get the big $!!!!
Hahahahah! Big $? HAHAHAHA!
Web designers get paid like crap for what they do, generally speaking. Really, for the time it takes vs. the final bill, web design is a very low paying profession.
Agreed. People seem to think that they can have sites that include everything but the kitchen sink - yet pay very little for it. After all, we only type a few strange words onto a screen. The software does all the rest, doesn't it? :-/
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