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Idea: Use the Core Less, Plugins More

  1. jimisaacs
    Member

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    I've been waiting for a more substantial plugin system for quite some time now.

    So much so, that if it's not soon, I might be tempted to switch to Chyrp.

    You might be saying, "If that's the way you feel, then good luck!"
    But I really don't want to switch, I love WordPress, and the people behind it.
    I think there is something here for everyone, but it could be sooooo much better.

    Instead of trying to implement everything into the core, why not do these things with plugins. While leaving the "core", as your basic plugin/user management system.

    I believe everything was necessary in 2.7, only if you guys say so.

    You need to transition smoothly from one version to the next, and you claim this version will allow you to do that easier from now on.

    I'm waiting on a "core - formatting - view" plugin system, with plugin alerts for unmet dependencies and conflicts, and would like to know if this is actually in the works, or will never be.

    If I'm the only person who feels this way, let me know.
    If I'm not alone, let me know.

    Give me a reply!

    Posted: 5 years ago #
  2. jimisaacs
    Member

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    People don't like using plugins, because plugin contributors have screwed it all up.

    There are 10% good plugins while 90% of them are useless, don't work, or will never be updated again.

    I blame the plugin system for all this as well.

    Making it more solid with alerts would address a lot of this mess.

    Also, I've read a lot of the documentation on here about writing plugins.
    I have to admit, that this documentation might be the root of the crazy amount of bad plugins out there.

    I'm sorry, I'm just calling them as I see them.

    For the record, my favorite plugins are:

    Akismet
    Google XML Sitemaps
    OpenID
    Search & Replace
    WP-DBManager

    Posted: 5 years ago #
  3. PJ Brunet
    Member

    I wrote a response to your question here: http://ferodynamics.com/why-write-wordpress-plugins/

    I'm linking to it because I will probably revise my answer a few times.

    Posted: 5 years ago #
  4. jimisaacs
    Member

    12345

    I wrote this post on my blog a while back before the 2.7 release.

    http://ji.dd.jimisaacs.com/archives/411

    I am pleased with the release, I'm just still looking for the modularity Chyrp offers.

    I don't want to switch to Chyrp, because:

    1. I still love WordPress and it's founders.
    2. I don't want to change the database model in everything I've ever done in WordPress.

    I simply want WordPress to take a look at what Chyrp has done right, build on it, and beat them at their own game.

    After reading the plans following 2.7, I have high hopes, but I would still like some answers.

    Posted: 5 years ago #
  5. mattwalters
    Member

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    It does seem that some things are getting added to core that could be better done as a plugin. Just sort of been hoping that someone knows better then me ;)

    Posted: 5 years ago #
  6. catix
    Member

    Hello

    I wrote an elaboration/version of this idea as well.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/topic.php?id=2935

    Posted: 4 years ago #
  7. Jen Mylo
    Key Master

    "Use core less, plugins more" is not a specific enough suggestion. We are trying to do more in this direction by keeping things that most people don't need by default out of core, but for the sake of this forum, please start a new thread with a specific suggestion, such as "move media upload into a plugin" or something like that. Each thread should contain one actionable suggestion, to make it easier for people to vote. This forum isn't really set up to vote on philosophy.

    Posted: 4 years ago #

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