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  1. 112502
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    I'm with nmallory on this one --- Manually converting those would be a major pain.

    There's something to be said for it, tho: Jerome's Keywords integration on the Post screen is a lot better than UTW, already has the "Suggested Tags" section and the tag store seems to be a lot more WordPress-friendly. All in all, I think its functions with regard to using Categories as Tags and having a seperate Tag Cosmos make it a little better suited for integration.

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  2. Jaykul
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    I'm a big fan of the tagging concept: being able to create new ones on the fly ... etc. But I think that implementing it outside of the current category system would be a mistake.

    Do me a favor, and before you try implementing tags, have a look at XMP ( http://www.adobe.com/products/xmp/ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Metadata_Platform ) and in particular, try playing with tagging in Windows Vista Photo Gallery.

    They've done some cool things with tags and they have the concept of nested tags. You can start typing the deepest level and have the tagging tool recognize it, so ... as I'm typing "Mik" it recognizes it as the beginning the tag: "Photos\Family\Girls\Mikayla" ... And when applied, it means that this thing I just tagged matches "Mikayla" but also "Girls" and "Family" and "Photos" ...

    I guess what I'm getting at is two things:

    There's no reason tags can't be nested like: "Photos\Family\Wife", or "Photos\Places\New York\Statue Of Liberty" -- which means that if you're willing to just stick to a short list of them, they'll work exactly the way categories do.

    If you develop nested, dynamic tags, instead of relatively static categories, you also end up with tools which will make most of the other category-related ideas I'm seeing easy or automatic (like moving posts between categories, batch category editing, multiple-category search, per-user category navigation, etc).

    Searching for "Blogging" + "Ideas" should be able to turn up all the posts in "Blogging\WordPess\Ideas" along with all the ones in "Blogging\Ideas" or ones that are tagged with both "Development\Ideas" and "Blogging" ... and you really ought to be able to link to that, like mysite.com\categories\Blogging+Ideas\

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  3. fncll
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    I agree about tag intersections (blogging + ideas) but not about nesting (blogging/ideas). The former is desirable, the latter is not. I don't like nesting for the same reason I don't like categories-- data loss due to order. In nest (blogging/ideas) and (ideas/blogging) are different containers. Not good.

    I think everything one needs can be obtained with tagging + intersections and negations...

    Whatever the case, native tagging would be FANTASTIC!!

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  4. ia
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    This would be nice to have because it would mean I wouldn't have to worry about not having a specific query type for setting the number of posts for displaying posts under a particular tag (having an is_tag() and all that for setting the number of posts per page). It's particularly annoying, you know. :)

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  5. Jaykul
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    fncll: the neat thing about nested tags is that even if they're implemented, you don't have to nest yours.

    Honestly, I think that not only should tags be nestable, but it should be possible to set a user-level for creating new tags. That way they are essentially backwards compatible with the concept of categories for those situations when many people are collaborating on a single site, and the administrator wants to preserve a strict hierarchy.

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  6. indigoclothing
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    This is a good idea but 'Bunnys Technorati Tags' Plugin does a good job already: http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/BunnysTechnoratiTags

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  7. Alexandre Pereira
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    Tags? Would be cool. :)

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  8. adamrice
    Member

    I'm using UTW alongside a traditional one-layer category system. This may be overly fussy, although IMO the two serve slightly different functions in practice.

    I like UTW, and would like for any WP implementation of tagging to "play nice" with what has gone before.

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  9. thelastkiss
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    Sounds good, but I would definitely want something to help convert my current UTW tags if this became a core feature within WP :)

    Posted: 7 years ago #
  10. Rod
    Member

    And what about Jerome's Keywords ?

    Posted: 7 years ago #

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