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Combine distraction free writing and kitchen sink

1. converting2wp
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   The first two "things you might not know" that Sheri Bigelow mentioned in her great talk at WordCamp San Francisco 2012 were Zen (distraction free) writing and the kitchen sink button on the editor tool bar.

   I guess I don't understand why we can't have them both.

   I know there are "distraction free" fans who also embrace the keyboard shortcuts (that Sheri also mentioned). But can't there be an option to add more of the editing buttons to the distraction free writing screen?

   For those of us who spend most of our time editing posts and are just more comfortable with buttons for formatting, being able to have the "full screen" mode along with a larger selection of buttons would be awesome.

   Posted: 9 months ago #

2. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
   Half-Elf Support Rogue & Mod

   Hi! Wasn't that a cool talk?

   It was talked about in http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/17136 a little, but in general the feeling was it was too distracting. There are over 40 shortcuts (I printed them up and have 'em stuck to a wall) and they fill the void. Someone could write a plugin to hook into that if they wanted, which would be a good first step for this :)

   Posted: 9 months ago #

3. converting2wp
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   Came back here to mention that I was posting this on behalf of those who are old enough to remember when there were *only* keyboard shortcuts and who were thrilled with the advent of buttons making everything more intuitive. We are also old enough that learning a new set of shortcuts may be an unwise use of scarce resources. Yes, printing them out is an option -- and taking eyes off the screen may be good ergonomics -- but it seems odd.

   I'll deal, but wanted to put in my two cents. And I guess I don't have enough context in the discussions -- couldn't find the relevant comments in that ticket you mentioned.

   I liked your talk even better!

   Posted: 9 months ago #

4. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
   Half-Elf Support Rogue & Mod

   I'll see if I can dig up the other, older talks about how Zen Mode was designed, but it really was intentional to be just the basics. Just write. Then go back in and re-jigger your layout, etc. It's a totally valid and weird thing, though, since the flow doesn't work well for everything or everyone.

   I've actually taken some of Sheri's ideas to heart and reorganized my non-Zen write screen to minimize everything I can and have a big block of writing right there.

   (Thank you, I'm glad you liked my talk!)

   Posted: 9 months ago #

5. converting2wp
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   Thanks! I guess turning off some of the other sections of the page is another option. However, I've printed the hot key help sheet and will try to use that instead of dropping into HTML mode or going back to non-Zen mode.

   And, oh, I see that clicking Help in non-zen mode brings up the full, tabbed frame (with the HotKeys as one of four options). (HotKeys are the only one available in Zen mode unless I right-click and say "open frame in new tab").

   Posted: 9 months ago #

6. converting2wp
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   Okay, so I'm also old enough to remember RTFM.

   While taping up the list hotkeys, I noticed Alt-Shift-G "Full Screen" which was different from Alt-Shift-W "Distraction Free Writing". [HotKeys documentation taken from a pre 3.4.1 version of WP.]

   Sure enough, with the focus in the regular edit text box, Alt-Shift-G gives me the old-style full screen edit window with all the buttons.

   This appears to be a bug. Will upgrade and test in 3.4.1 and post in the support forums and report the link back here.

   Posted: 9 months ago #

7. converting2wp
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   Here's the support ticket:
   http://wordpress.org/support/topic/full-screen-editing-with-formatting-buttons?replies=1#post-3049532

   Posted: 9 months ago #

8. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
   Half-Elf Support Rogue & Mod

   That would actually be a thing for core.trac.wordpress.org (support forums aren't the same as trac tickets), as it may actually be a bug. Or a hidden feature.... I'll ask Sheri.

   Posted: 9 months ago #

9. converting2wp
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   I posted in http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/20237.

   The ticket was set to "awaiting review" (to put back the ALT-Shift-G functionality?) but this may still be plugin territory (to add a better button?). I've no idea how to do either, so I hope others may pick up on this thread -- and I hope that the solution with the duplicate button will still work in 3.5.

   Posted: 9 months ago #

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